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| Hi there ! Whilst a Tasmanian A-League team being named United is O.K.,personally I think that there are too many teams with that tag about.Surely we can come up with something a bit more original or inspiring ? Any ideas ? Also, the Tasmania United logo ain't exactly awe inspiring is it ? Let's hear what you think ! Add comments | 9th May 2009 | 39 |
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geniaposted at 4:09AM on 26th Nov, 2008 Tazztell what is your problem with the Logo the majority of people i have spoken to think it great very modern, the name united speaks for itself its a team for the whole of the state not north or south lets not get into the same arguements as some other football codesRutposted at 5:41AM on 26th Nov, 2008 The logo looks like the Hot Wheels Logo. I like the Tassie Convicts as a name - make for an interesting Strip as well!!TC_CValeposted at 9:57AM on 26th Nov, 2008 The name of the team has to be Tasmania United, because unless we are all united this will not work. What is open for discussion is the nickname of the team, Convicts is very good, any other suggestions. As for the colour, what about one based around Potugal.Chuqposted at 12:24PM on 26th Nov, 2008 Tasmania United is an ideal name for a Tasmanian club.. in fact it was the name I was hoping for, before the taskforce was ever formed :) Just because Adelaide and Gold Coast use it for no real reason, doesn't mean we shouldn't use it. Tigers is taken by the cricket team. Devils was used by two defunct teams (NBL, and VFL). The logo.. yeah, I prefer something more shield like. Adelaide/Sydney/Newcastle/Melbourne have good logos.tazziedevilposted at 11:10PM on 26th Nov, 2008 Yeah, I'm happy with the name, as it reperesents the state well. The logo...well I think it's a little dated, and reminds me of Roar's. lol and yes, hotwheels as well.tufcposted at 7:00AM on 28th Nov, 2008 Call me old-fashioned, but I think football teams should be city, not state based. Queensland Roar is a Brisbane team and everyone knows it. It never really represented the whole state, and even less so now that Gold Coast and Townsville are in. Hobart City FC would be my pick, but of course that's gonna stir up the old North v South debate (yawn!!). Wouldn't it be great though, if one day down the track, perhaps when the A-League has 2 divisions, there could be a team based in Launceston as well. Imagine the rivalry that would ensue for the local "Tassie Derby" - shades of Celtic v Rangers, or Liverpool FC v Man U!!thomasposted at 8:00AM on 28th Nov, 2008 the logo is really bad. something modern isn't the way to go, in my opinion, something 'classic' or minimalist seems to add more credability. i agree that a shield is the best way to go..ntguyposted at 7:49AM on 30th Nov, 2008 I don't particularly like Tasmania United as a name. Why not just Tasmania FC. We could have as our mascot Taz... How about a competition to design an image for Taz and then build it into the logo. The maroon(?) and yellow on the logo are far too muted... they need to be vibrant.ndireenposted at 2:54AM on 1st Dec, 2008 Chuq (comment #5) - Adelaide United (my current A-League team)is called that because the former Adelaide team in the NSL was Adelaide City (compare Man City / Man U)... also why Adelaide are now "The Reds", and they chant "There's only one United!". So their choice of United is not for "no reason"! :) Gold Coast on the other hand -no idea why they chose "United" for their club. But I do agree with you: if our Tassie team has to represent both North and South, then it should be "United" - otherwise, divided we will fall...Taswegianposted at 3:51AM on 1st Dec, 2008 Dont get me wrong, I like TUFC and it makes sense to me too, but if I had my choice, even if it doesn't quite make sense, I would call it AFC Tasmania (Allied Football Club of Tasmania) or just FC Tasmania. Like I said, probably doesn't make sense but I just like the sound of it. I still prefer the paw logo they showed as well. I think that would have become iconic for us. You wouldn't need a cap with TUFC and a big logo written over it, you just need a cap with the paw symbol or a flag with the paw on it etc. At the end of the day I don't care if they call the team Derek, as long as we get the team!Jozeposted at 3:04AM on 2nd Dec, 2008 The name could play on the 'Van Diemens' tag, with the logo resembling something similar to Man Utd.tassiemarsposted at 3:32AM on 2nd Dec, 2008 As for Hobart FC, good idea but idealistic to think we could ever see more than one team. Tassie's entire population is like that of some municipalities in Melbourne or Sydney. (e.g. Parramatta) We need local knowledge in these decisions. The Tassie Tiger (Dead Dog hehe) needs to be represented in the logo to be authentic Tasmanianstoogestposted at 11:49PM on 2nd Dec, 2008 I like the suggestion of the 'Van Diemens'. I tend to cringe whenever people drag out the old cliches of the Tassie Tiger or Tassie Devil. Sure they're iconic, but something fresh is needed (and for the die hards you could still use the tassie devil on the shield/emblem with a name like the van Diemens).tassiemarsposted at 2:57PM on 3rd Dec, 2008 The Tasmanian Tiger is not only iconic, it is also current. View this logo http://www.mariopauls.info/Assets/tasgovlogo_1.gif Don't be apologetic for Tasmanian history. Embrace it if you want to attract Tasmanians. Beware of any connection with the forest industries, it can be divisive.laddyposted at 6:46AM on 19th Dec, 2008 I am a passionate Adelaide United supporter but I fully support a team from Tasmania entering the A-League. I sincerely want the game to grow and become a major player in the Australian sporting landscape.It is imperative that football embraces expansion into places such as Tasmania,Canberra,Illawarra,Geelong as well as a second team in Sydney. However,I would like to suggest that Tasmania use another name and not "United". The naming of "Adelaide United" as already pointed out,DID have a logical rationale. Our previous NSL team was called 'City" AND the local football community was divided after City's withdrawl from the league.It was logical then that the previous owner of the club wanted to name it "United" when he tried to mend the divisions and enlist support from all parts of the football community.There was also only one other United that being Newcastle United and they prefer to use their nickname "Jets" more than the name United. However,I believe that Tasmania should not follow Adelaide and the Gold Coast even though it can be argued that the name could unite the North and South in the state. I believe that the use of the name "Tasmania" alone would have the effect of uniting your beautiful state in terms of support. "Tasmania F.C" with the nickname "Devils" or "Green Devils" should be enough to draw the support of all Tasmanians. It is simple and better than "Hobart F.C" or "Launceston F.C".Half the games could be played in Hobart and half in Launceston.Surely that would alleviate the North-South rivalry. Anyhow,good luck with your bid.I will certainly venture down to Tassie if the mighty Reds get to play a Tasmanian team in the A-League!!Rhianposted at 5:53AM on 20th Dec, 2008 Tasmania United Hatchets. Now there is some history behind my choice of this name, the story of which I heard on the radio a few months ago. This comes from a event that happened in the earlier part of the 20th century, I don't remember the exact time it took place, between the then mayors of Launceston and Hobart. It derives from the North/South rivalry, more specifically Launceston/Hobart, about which was the better region of the state. After a lot of the bickering the two mayors decided to meet at a specified place and both buried two hatchets ( I'll assume your all aware of the term ' bury the hatchet' ) in the ground to end the frivolous argument, and to bring the state together. Unfortunately, along with a lot of documented history throughout the country that got lost or was missplaced, there whereabouts of the burial spot has been lost and obviously so have the hatchets. Because of this story and the current team name Tasmania United, ie bringing Tasmania together, I think Hatchets would be a good name for the team. Plus it does sound pretty cool to me. kiallrposted at 11:52PM on 22nd Dec, 2008 While it is just semantics, and will have no bearing on my support for the club, I hate the United moniker. For one, it is so cliched and is used far too often for my liking. Secondly, having the word 'united' in the name may suggest unity, but true unity for the cause can only come through the actions of those involved in and around the club, not with a bit of word play. I think we should embrace our unique place in the world, find a name that is both original and 'Tasmanian'. Not Devils or Tigers, these have been used so often and for so long than I doubt they have retained any true meaning in the psyche of the average Tasmanian - they have become comercial entities. I absolutely agree with the state colours being used. A predominantly bottle green jersey with maroon and gold trim, it just screams Tasmania. Foxhawkposted at 10:32PM on 11th Feb, 2009 I think Tasmania United is a good name. Personally 'United' annoys the crap out of me, but in the case of Tasmania it just works. Let other clubs with United change their names (Gold Coast United for example). The Club will probably get it's own nickname. I like a number although I prefer the 'Lions'. For that reason I suggest the club logo be placed either above, below or on top of a red lion. (Probably a shorter version of the lion on the flag which is too tall). As for a city, well that brings in the possibility that the club will end up only playing in that city. Plus it reduces the number of people who will watch the club int he north. Believe me a lot more people will go to Launceston to watch Tasmania United FC then Hobart City FC. Foxhawkposted at 10:32PM on 11th Feb, 2009 (Could not fit this in above) As for have city teams, well lets leave people in Hobart and Launceston to individually apply for their own licences down the track if they so wish. In the meantime we need a club to start things off. Finally, I doubt a future Hobart City FC or Launceston City FC would play Tasmania United FC very much as they would probably rarely get above the future A-League second division. (Plus lets not forget competing bids for second tier licences that they would need to beat). galacticaposted at 11:13AM on 24th Feb, 2009 Yes I agree with Foxhawk and laddy that (1) we are stuck now with our name because city based names would be the death knell before the bid even got off the ground so United we are and (2) Green Devils as a nickname isnt too bad really. We cant please all of us and lets face it we have to be aware that to begin with by erring on the conservative side in these things avoids giving the existing A League opposition more ammo to poke fun at us. We want these teams to be hopefully looking at "little" Tassie and saying we are their second side, the team they hope wins when not playing them. This way we build up support eventually on the mainland. Lets also not forget that there are thousands of expatriate "Taswegians" over there who will start to take notice and have pride when we begin competing in our country's major league of the worls game. Chuqposted at 8:41AM on 25th Feb, 2009 I just wanted to echo that I really like the name "Green Devils" as a nickname! (Note - nickname only! Tasmania United FC is the ideal "official" name!) Unless the kit ends up being not predominantly green. Then we are in trouble :-/
kiallrposted at 4:19AM on 26th Feb, 2009 Can I just voice my concern over that. I, and many others, detest Manchester United - the Red Devils. Having the name Tasmania United and the nickname 'Green Devils' just screams copycat to me, and also puts me off a little. I know the 2 clubs are different entities, but the similarities are enough to leave a bad taste in the mouth. Chuqposted at 6:10AM on 26th Feb, 2009 Both "Green" and "Devil" come from Tasmanian symbols. Besides, if you hate the Red Devils, the Green Devils are the exact opposite? ;)
ntguyposted at 11:02AM on 26th Feb, 2009 I don't like the name Green Devils at all. To me it seems that Green is superfluous in that name. Calling the team Tassie Devils doesn't sit well with me either because that was used by the VFL side. I have wracked my brains trying to find a suitable nickname and the best I can come up with is the TASSIE ISLANDERS and the fans could sit in THE BAY. Chuqposted at 12:39PM on 26th Feb, 2009 I don't mean the official name - that should stay "Tasmania United FC". I just mean as a nickname, as Adelaide United are "the reds" and Sydney FC are "the sky blues".
Foxhawkposted at 11:28PM on 26th Feb, 2009 The Thylacine is historically known in texts as the 'Tasmanian Wolf' almost as much as it is called the 'Tasmanian Tiger'. How about giving Tasmania United FC the nickname 'Tasmanian Wolves'. Yes I know it already is a very successful club nickname in England and also a club nickname in both Brisbane and Wollongong, but I think we could make it our own in this region. No more a copycat name than 'Green Devils'. I would prefer it to Lions, though I like both. Def prefer it to 'The Convicts'. Rutposted at 12:01AM on 20th Apr, 2009 I think that Surfing dude on the front page of Saturday's Mercury owes me a few $ in royalties! :) roccotposted at 2:54AM on 20th Apr, 2009 Official Name:Tasmania United FC Nickname: Van Demons Foxhawkposted at 10:57AM on 28th Apr, 2009 I still like either the Tassie Wolves or the Tassie Lions. Tassie Wolves with a home kit utilising the colour of the thylacine with four stripes on each side under the arms that narrow to a point at each end and do not cross either the front or back of the kit. Front of kit white and two vertical horizontal marone stripes on the back. Marone hoops for an away kit on white. OR Tassie Lions with a dark green kit with blood red sides under the arms and a duplicate of the Lion on the Tasmanian flag just beneath the neck and on both sleeves. Blood red sleeve ends. Blood red hoops for an away kit on white. Thats my opinion anyway, have a few other ideas and when I learn how to make kits I will post some ideas. Cheers galacticaposted at 12:53PM on 28th Apr, 2009 I agree with you Foxhawk. I like Wolves as the emblem name. It engenders a bit of grunt to it - nothing like a bit of animal in the dog to bring out a bit of dog in the animal so to speak. Bit better than something like the Bluegums alright for an eventual womens side I suppose although the South African mens cricket side is called the Proteas after one of the country's flowers. Don't like it though myself seems a bit floppy. Also if we look in the Mercury there is a colour combination strip of claret/burgundy/maroon, blue/green and yellow/gold worn by the victorious Tas U21 Aus womens hockey champs. I dont mean we should use the same combinations but it gives a good example of how these colours co-ordinate successfully. ntguyposted at 2:07AM on 6th May, 2009 Demons in its various spellings seems to be the most popular nickname for the team so far. The fanatical supporters would have to sit in The Furnace wouldn't they? Foxhawkposted at 5:47AM on 7th May, 2009 Personally I think Demons has been done in the Tasmanian market. Something like Lions, or Convicts, Wolves or Islanders would be better I think. My two favourites are Wolves (thylacine or tasmanian wolf) or Lions (red lion off the state flag). My pc is busted but when its working I will do up some kit ideas. TC_CValeposted at 8:27AM on 7th May, 2009 I still think Rut's "Convicts" is the best original one mentioned. With some good luck (insha allah) TUFC will be Tasmania's first ever football team of any code to play in a national sporting league. Tasmania was origianally a penal colony, the convict labour built early Tas, the convicts also built the original Midlands Highway that in the near future will see TUFC fans travelling on to support our team at home games. TUFC will be the original Tasmanian national football team, we need an original name, Convicts is that, it will allow the club to also built a link to our past history that can be used in various ways. The teams nickname is so important to a club, especially a new club like ours, we need something that will help with Sponsorship, Marketing (Asia as well as Aust), Home ground nickname etc. A nickname that when mentioned in conversations, automatically registers as being Tasmanian. As a state we are proud of our original Convict heritage, lets be original too. PS Its a Tassie Tiger not a Wolf Admin If Mr Mohammed want's us to be known as the "Camels" we dont care, just sign him plssssssss. galacticaposted at 10:01AM on 7th May, 2009 Wolves for me. I know they have tiger stripes but they are (were?) a marsupial wolf. There never have been any tigers in Tassie. Nor lions for that matter but well thats only the British boat people who brought that notion of old blimey with them. Dont think we can have lions anyway cos Brisbane Roar as they have recently renamed themselves do have a lion as their emblem. Some 40,000 years ago there were ancient megafauna lions on the mainland so I suppose there is a tiny connection. Anyway no other Tassie side has wolves and it sure beats native hens, echidnas, wombats, galahs, parrots or whatever. Nothing wrong though with a convict having a wolf beside him as a mascot after all they were both locked up by the authorities and left to rot. So a good form of symbolism of breaking free of the shackles. ntguyposted at 12:38PM on 7th May, 2009 I really dislike "convicts" as a name. If my limited understanding of Tasmania's history is correct there were always more "free" people in the colony than "convicts" and there has been nearly 150 years of growth and development since transportation stopped. Although Tasmania has a wonderful built heritage and was originally a convict settlement I think we should be looking to the present and the future not the past when it comes to giving our team a nickname. Foxhawkposted at 8:34AM on 9th May, 2009 Actually just in regard to the above statement that the Thylacine is a 'tiger' and not a 'wolf' the reality is that it is neither. In Tasmania it is certainly called a 'tiger' due to the striping, however in other places it is widely known as the 'Tasmanian Wolf' or the 'Marsupial Wolf' from the shape of its head. If it was selected as a nickname then I would imagine that just as admin earlier stated the temporary logo being used for the bid would be replaced and a new logo would be created which would probably utilise the outline of the thylacine in much the same way that the Newcastle Jets logo has images of fighter aircraft. Just the same I could easily go with Lions, but as was mentioned earlier that would probably be out I guess with Brisbane Roar's association with that animal. |
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posted at 2:55AM on 26th Nov, 2008
I like United as it shows that north and south are united no matter where the soccer is played (Launceston or Hobart).» Reply to this comment