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It looks like the other regions are putting their foot in it...

1. Gold Coast United's arrogant owner Clive Palmer has decided to cap tickets to future matches to 5000 (in their awesome looking 27000 stadium).  I can't see the FFA being happy about this.

2. Canberra has chucked a hissy fit about not getting A-League license #12, and is protesting by withdrawing support for the Australian WC bid.  How very childish and irresponsible.

What a great opportunity for Tasmania be first in line for the Gold Coast's license (if FFA take it off them - perhaps not that likely), and offer to be a host city for the World Cup bid!

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Foxhawk

posted at 10:20PM on 27th Oct, 2009

If need be the FFA will support GC financially, like Adelaide and NQF.

Canberra will probably come into line in a short time, especially when the FA announces plans to expand earlier than expected to 14 whent he economy starts to come right.

I think our chance will be to replace Wellington. They have their own A-League clone and the minute Wellington is not needed to give them a boost they either be relocated to NZ and become a NZ team (they are an Australian team at present according to FIFA), or will simply lose their licence.

What the region needs is for Asia to split and for the east to merge with the Pacific to form two new confederacies;

Asia & Asia-Pacific. (Or just East/West Asia perhaps).

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galactica

posted at 7:55AM on 28th Oct, 2009

Yes it all sounds like political machinations by self centered organisations. Hopefully it means our stand alone bid by the TUFC will be accepted as having genuine FFA ideals. I also hope we can get off the ground before some bastardised AFL arrangement with AFL Tasmania and the Northern Territory muddies the waters in our own politicians soggy and slow responding grey matter. At the moment the TUFC bid and AFL Tasmania seem doomed to a collision course by such political manouvering. That is unless there are secret government discussions going on behind the scenes, which would not surprise me one iota because that is how Tassie operates.

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ntguy

posted at 9:46AM on 28th Oct, 2009

I understood that Lowy in his address in Melbourne last week indicated that he wanted to see the League in places like Canberra and Tasmania.

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Tazztell

posted at 11:06AM on 28th Oct, 2009

At the outset of the A-League, the FFA stated that they wanted to expand the league to places outside of the mainland big cities, so what do they do ? Promote second teams from Sydney and Melbourne ! (notice that Sydney F.C. are hardly pulling in the punters at present). At the end of the day it is not about fairness or merit, but money from sponsors to bankroll these clubs.Such is modern life.Personally I'd like to see the new Melbourne and Sydney clubs come a cropper in due course , and teams from Tasmania,Canberra, and elsewhere get a fair shake of the stick. Hell, I'd prefer to see a second New Zealand team than another Melbourne/Sydney/Adelaide !! The way the FFA is going, the A-League will end up like the old NSL (God forbid !)

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Foxhawk

posted at 12:14PM on 28th Oct, 2009

Actually second teams for Melbourne and Sydney is in my opinion a rather smart move. A derby within Sydney itself could actually help increase Sydney FC loyalties and support, especially if they win this year or next then get smashed by the new west sydney side (which will garner more support).

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ntguy

posted at 11:58PM on 28th Oct, 2009

Sydney FC is the second highest drawing club in the League and that is with having virtually no supporters west of Ashfield.  A western Sydney team should have been in the League from day 1 as it is by far the strongest football area in the country.  The second Melbourne team is just common sense too. Even if they only scrape together 5,000 of their own fans with the 3 Melbourne derbies drawing 30,000+ a game and 14 extra games out of Melbourne their inclusion will result in a 300,000 or 20% increase in total attendance at A-League games.  Sydney Rovers inclusion the following year will have the same impact so by the end of 2011/12 when the TV Broadcast rights have to be renegotiated the League will have had a 2,000,000 seasons attendance.  The higher profile of the game in the two major markets in the country will result in bigger TV Rights income for the FFA and also reflect in clubs sponsorship deals.  This was the expansion that the League had to have to make further expansion possible.

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Tazztell

posted at 6:31AM on 29th Oct, 2009

As I said-it's all about the money !

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ntguy

posted at 8:51AM on 29th Oct, 2009

Unfortunately the League can't exist without it.  The FFA needs $80M a year just to survive and for each extra A-League side it needs another $1.0M in income just for its part in running the League.  Whether we like it or not most of their income is generated in the 3 big states so in effect these states subsidise the rest of football in this country.  I am quite happy for Qld, NSW and Vic, which make up 78% of the population, to provide the funds so that the rest of us can enjoy some good football.  I can't wait for interest in our bid to generate the funds needed to complete the business case and then fund a team because as soon as we get there the FFA will be there ready to bring us on board. The only proviso on us getting into the League I see is the failure of any 12 current franchises.  If that happens you can kiss our chances good bye for quite a long time while the FFA steadies the ship.

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TC_CVale

posted at 8:13AM on 30th Oct, 2009

The Gold Coast problem is all to do with the cost of hiring the stadium & Govt taxes on seating numbers. He wants to be able to hire the stadium knowing an average crowd of 5500 people turn up & not the maximum capacity and as such the fee should be lower. Presently they are losing money evey home game. Clive Palmers statement is available to read at four four two. Maybe someone from TUFC should have a look also, as many of his worry's will be TUFC's problems also, especially in relation to projecting your home game attendances. An interesting graph with the % of support per population, which is encouraging for our bid, as it shows that in small population areas the support has been very good.

ADMIN, maybe Mr Palmer could be open to an invitation to play a home game (Wellington) in Tassie, this would make him a lot of money and with Culina, Smeltz, Porter etc playing we would see what we could expect in the way of crowd support. Give our bid a huge boost, & boost GCU coffers as well. Im sure FFA would not have a problem. Its just a idea.

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Tazztell

posted at 10:51AM on 30th Oct, 2009

I agree 100%. It would also make a pleasant change from seeing Melbourne or Adelaide on Tasmanian soil (no offence intended)

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